These minutes are based substantially on notes by Barry Lewin, Bellcore.
Thanks a lot Barry for taking excellent notes.
Walt
Minutes to May 15 ICC Test Team
meeting.
Meeting began at 9:00 AM.
1. Discussion on 911. When a number is ported, you need to test on day
one as to whether the line can reach 911. On day two, it is important to
call the database administrator to determine whether the line is marked
properly.
Part of the test includes multiple portings of a single TN. In this
trial, surcharges need to be handled properly and the test plan talks of
a built in assumption that the surcharge should be calculated based on
being in the database for at least
two weeks.
2. The SCP committee wrote a few test scripts with error conditions and
they(the SCP folks) are meeting next week to finish that off. The
majority of their issues are on
the looping situation.
3. Issues around ISDN. Right now there are about 160 test scripts in the
test plan. The plan won t be cut down, but individual trial participants
will need to pick and choose which of those tests to run. One comment
(Andy Chalk) suggested that this is a problem because it is likely that
all participants will select a different subset. The determination of
this sub-set must be developed by the SPoC group. Walt noted that this
does not preclude coordination between interconnected parties during the
trial.
4. Some of the scripts are vague on terms like "default toll carrier"
but Walt pointed out that we can work those issues as they materialize.
Perhaps contacting the test script
author would be a good first step.
5. Freezing the test plan - at the Operations team meeting yesterday
there was discussion about mass calling and similar items. From that
perspective, the plan is not frozen. Walt pointed out that by "frozen"
he means "stabilize" or "not introducing additional changes in advance
of the trial." Bill Belshaw noted that a few items are still in process
(e.g., 911) and will be add-ons.
Otherwise, the plan is pretty stable.
6. Question on cellular - cellular will only be a part of the test to
the extent that they will have
incoming trunk groups.
Open Action items:
Item 12 - synonymous with mass calling - as soon as we get items from
the Operations team Walt will try to find someone at Ameritech to write
scripts.
Item 15 - will not be available for the trial and is viewed as a
non-issue for the trial.
Item 18 - items soon to be available for the test plan (probably by the
end of the month). Proposed web
scripts will be on Barry s web page.
Item 24 - no change in status, although Walt gave an update on what the
NTC is looking at. He also highlighted some comparatively simple tests
in his lab and saw extensive
looping based on the XUDT message counts.
Item 26 - Bill Belshaw is working on this. Text has been finalized and
approved. Update should come
before end of May.
Item 28 - post dial delay tests. Being worked by SPoC team. The
conclusion of the Operations team was to measure it and state the
results as fact, but make a judgment as to whether it is good or bad.
The responsibility is that each participating company report their post
dial delay under various scenarios. There is nothing that requires it to
be measured on EACH call. Dick pointed out that each participant is
being required to measure it and state the measurement method. Mitch
Kapor agreed to write a definition
on PDD and give to Bill Belshaw
Item 29 - Walt and Betty Shelby wrote LSMS test cases and gave to Bill
Belshaw for inclusion on 4/9/97.
Item 30 - SCP committee is submitting this next week. We will review at
next meeting.
Item 32 - Much of the data has been collected, the rest will be here
today and the issue should be closed tomorrow (assuming all info
arrives).
Item 34 - Walt suggested closing this issue and leave it to those
running ISDN tests to draw out for
their own purposes.
Item 38 - closed.
Item 39 - closed
Item 41 - closed
Item 42 - closed last time by
saying it would be worked by SPoCs
Item 43 - closed
Item 44 - SCP looping test. This is a combination of other items and
Walt suggested that it be closed
(due to redundancy).
Item 45 - looping test. It will be submitted but won t likely be
included in the trial. The NIIF will decide how to handle this on a
going forward basis. Walt
suggested that this be closed.
Item 47 - This is of concern in a rolling overload situation. The text
in 4.3 will be updated to reflect this. Barry Bishop will be able to
discuss this later.
Item 48 - Is there an issue with TTNs? This is still open because Jeff
and Walt did not connect. It is possible that this will be discussed
later today. The real question is what activity is going on in T1S1 (per
Jim Joerger). Item remains open. Walt will ask Barry Bishop this
afternoon about this.
The test team meeting concluded at 10:45 AM. Dick Dowd took the floor as
chair of the SpoC committee.
Dick discussed the need for identifying the minimum set of tests to run.
he raised the suggestion of not including CLASS or AIN in the minimum
set.
Dick also discussed the definition of success (or failure). The
direction is for the SPoCs to report on results factually and let the
determination of success be in the eyes of the readers (not the SPoCs).
Once the trial report is put together and the findings are documented,
we invite the participants to put together a single page on whether the
trial was/was not successful to them, bearing in mind this is not
intended to be an advertisement. Walt felt that at a minimum, there
needs to be at least two incumbents and two CLECs with porting in
between. Walt s view was that the concept is to assure that we can prove
in the LRN platform and this definition should drive the minimum set of
tests.
Do we have a format for that report? Dick said he does and has forwarded
it to Barry. It is due on October 17. Dick is willing to share it after
ratification by the Operations Committee. Dick was unwilling to share a
preliminary draft because it may change significantly. Organizationally
(and protocol wise) it is up to the Operations Committee to make that
call. The format will be similar to what was done in New York. Dick is
proposing an expanded version of the NY report which is on
www.ported.com.
There was an issue with non-disclosure agreements and sharing between
Ameritech and others. People were asked to bring in their information
and hands it out, Ameritech won t be the go-between and therefore NDAs
may not be needed.
Question on the table is whether it is appropriate to have
non-participants who are in the room participate in the discussion. Some
companies are unwilling to share beyond the six participants. This will
be cared for as the June meeting
will be separate for the SPoCs.
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